Please help! Identifying this ol' gal.

[Adam77]

   

This old bike has been in my grandparents shed for years. Me and my dad have been trying and failing to figure out what it is.
Any ideas fellow gearheads?

[enkei]

That looks like a Montgomery Ward "Hawthorne" to me. You can read more here.

[GirishH]

Or a 1940 Schwinn Lasalle?

[enkei]

(08-13-2023, 08:40 AM)GirishH Wrote:  Or a 1940 Schwinn Lasalle?

To me, it looks like the forks, frame, and rack in the OP's photo are different from the Schwinn.

[Jesper]

Cleveland Welding Co. frame. Possible Western Flyer?

[enkei]

(08-13-2023, 02:00 PM)Jesper Wrote:  Cleveland Welding Co. frame. Possible Western Flyer?

Could be. Cleveland made the Montgomery Ward frames for them.

[humorous]

The Cabe Seiberling



Seiberling Road King. Serial number is from Cleveland Welding years 1949-51.

[Jesper]

(02-27-2024, 01:31 PM)humorous Wrote:  The Cabe Seiberling



Seiberling Road King. Serial number is from Cleveland Welding years 1949-51.

Thanks for getting us a better ID on that bike. I neglected to post the OP's bike on the CABE forum; they can usually ID it in a very short time.

[Talha]

1930s white super chief boys skip tooth?

[Nicholas]

Hi @Adam77!
One of our members wrote a comment via Facebook post: "I have similar; mine is a ww2 era solid steel skip-tooth chain (i think; very low res photo). Probably a Hawthorne. Heavy AF. Get you a gentle wire brush on the head badge and chain guard, you might get some more clues."

[Jesper]

(02-29-2024, 07:22 PM)Nicholas Wrote:  Hi @Adam77!
One of our members wrote a comment via Facebook post: "I have similar; mine is a ww2 era solid steel skip-tooth chain (i think; very low res photo). Probably a Hawthorne. Heavy AF. Get you a gentle wire brush on the head badge and chain guard, you might get some more clues."

Hello,
Just a quick note: NEVER USE A WIRE BRUSH ON A HEAD BADGE!! They are often made of brass (or other soft metals) and will be needlessly scratched upon cleaning. Best bet (but still not recommended unless badge was painted over or you have previous experience) is to use a mild chemical cleaner or extra fine grade bronze wool with light pressure to remove unwanted paint/corrosion. Without seeing the actual badge it is hard to recommend the best cleaning procedure regarding the material and its preservation. I work on bikes over 100 years old and have decades of experience in restoration of older bikes (and other items made of steel, brass, bronze, aluminium, wood, leather, etc.).