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Even though I'm WFH for now, I plan to start commuting by bike for the first time when we eventually return to the office. I'd also like to get extra mileage with some recreational riding on weekends and while occasionally running errands. Hoping to get some recommendations for a new-to-me Bianchi Milano I bought on Craigslist. What are your preferences, and what do you like to keep on you when you commute?

I'm completely new to all of this, but I tried to think of what I will eventually need. I'd greatly appreciate your opinions on the following list:
What have I missed? Might there be some issues with compatibility? What are some better alternatives that aren't super expensive? I don't mind investing more now if it will really be worth it down the line. Did I cheap out on some items too much? Are some of them a waste of money?

I promise I'm not an Amazon, Costco, or REI shill. With so many different items, it was just easier to find most of them in a couple of places, but I'm not restricted/loyal to any particular vendor/site if you have recommendations elsewhere.

Thanks for taking the time to read what has become a pretty long post, and thanks in advance for your suggestions!
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(03-30-2020, 09:56 AM)8jk8 Wrote:  Even though I'm WFH for now, I plan to start commuting by bike for the first time when we eventually return to the office. I'd also like to get extra mileage with some recreational riding on weekends and while occasionally running errands. Hoping to get some recommendations for a new-to-me Bianchi Milano I bought on Craigslist. What are your preferences, and what do you like to keep on you when you commute?

I'm completely new to all of this, but I tried to think of what I will eventually need. I'd greatly appreciate your opinions on the following list:

What have I missed? Might there be some issues with compatibility? What are some better alternatives that aren't super expensive? I don't mind investing more now if it will really be worth it down the line. Did I cheap out on some items too much? Are some of them a waste of money?

Thanks for taking the time to read what has become a pretty long post, and thanks in advance for your suggestions!
It looks like you've got it all figured out. What's left to want?

Why two bells?

A rechargeable two-light set for only $8.99? That sounds almost useless. On a dark night, you're not going to be able to see where you're going, especially if the road is wet. And you'd want drivers to see you. I'd save your money on that and spring for a good light A decent front light should run you around $60. Then a rear light that takes batteries would be around $17. I have one on each of my bikes, and they have steady or flashing modes, and they are very bright LEDS. My front light cost me $80 a few years ago but prices have gone down. It's a brilliant light with four levels but I run on the lowest light level. The battery charge lasts longer that way. Lights are not a good thing to skimp on, and I feel sure you'd soon regret them.

Personally, I would have avoided a left hand drive bike. There is only one company who makes left hand freewheels, so you might want to have a spare one in case something happens, and it leaves you without a bike for a while. Also, if the wheel got damaged, you'd have to get one with a left hand thread, or have a bike shop reuse your hub with a new rim and spokes. But you bought it and you can make it work well.

Before you start commuting with it, I would suggest a full service such as cleaning and re-greasing all bearings. If you're good with mechanical work, you could do that in a half day. If not, a bike shop can do it for you. You don't want to find out the things that might let you down on the way to work or home.

Oh, one more thing if you'll be commuting. Get a fluorescent yellow safety jacket with reflective stripes. Being seen goes a long way to staying safe.
If I knew how to ride a bike properly, I'd do it every time.
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#3
Thanks for your thorough reply! I tried to make sure I covered my bases, but I don't know what brands or types of products are preferable/necessary.

Two bells because my wife recently got a bike as well (Diamondback Wildwood).

That's a good point on the lights. Do you have specific recommendations? The cheap ones I found are 80 lumens. Is there like a minimum brightness that you'd say I need to make sure I get?

Regarding the left hand drive bike - I don't even know what that really means. Could you help me understand what the differences are and why it might be inconvenient? What is the one company that makes left hand freewheels? What's a freewheel? Excuse my ignorance, but like I said, I'm a complete newbie.

I do plan on having a shop check it over and potentially doing a tune-up if necessary before we start using the bikes.

A bright safety jacket does sound like a good idea.

I really appreciate you taking the time to share what you know. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask your opinions specifically on the locks (Would the Kryptonite standard model be sufficient? Is it a good price? How does the cheaper Via Velo compare? Should I go with something else altogether?) and the Ibera rack/bag/panniers (similar questions). Thanks again!
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(04-01-2020, 09:19 PM)8jk8 Wrote:  That's a good point on the lights. Do you have specific recommendations? The cheap ones I found are 80 lumens. Is there like a minimum brightness that you'd say I need to make sure I get?

I have no recommendations. Your best bet is to do an Internet search for bike lights. There are many from which to choose. I have a Serfas light I bought three years ago and it's great. It has four brightness modes. I just checked Amazon for Serfas brand lights. They range from cheap to $129. One that I would choose if I were buying one, would by the $79 light. I think if you go with a mid-range price, you'll be fine. I have an LED bike light which takes batteries in my bike parts box. It's okay if the purpose is to be seen by drivers, but for lighting a dark road, not very good. Here's a link to the Serfas page. Bear in mind that Serfas isn't the only maker of bike lights.
https://www.amazon.com/serfas-bike-lights/s?k=serfas+bike+lights

Quote:Regarding the left hand drive bike - I don't even know what that really means. Could you help me understand what the differences are and why it might be inconvenient? What is the one company that makes left hand freewheels? What's a freewheel? Excuse my ignorance, but like I said, I'm a complete newbie.

A freewheel is the gear on your back wheel. It can be a single cog or multiple cogs. You have multiple cogs in the photo you showed.

I am in complete error about your bike being left hand drive. It looks that way in the photo, but I downloaded it and zoomed in on it, and I see that it's right hand drive. That is good! Sorry about that! I gotta get new glasses. I should also have noticed that the chainwheel isn't on the left side. I can't believe I goofed up so badly!

Quote:I do plan on having a shop check it over and potentially doing a tune-up if necessary before we start using the bikes.

A wise decision!

Quote:I really appreciate you taking the time to share what you know. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask your opinions specifically on the locks (Would the Kryptonite standard model be sufficient? Is it a good price? How does the cheaper Via Velo compare? Should I go with something else altogether?) and the Ibera rack/bag/panniers (similar questions). Thanks again!

So many locks to choose from! There is no perfect lock that can't be broken by a thief; you can only make the bike as secure as you can. Cables can be cut in seconds. Some thieves carry portable battery-powered grinders which will cut a lock or cable in seconds. If you intend to keep the bike locked up in a place that's accessible to the public, you'll likely find it gone, one day. Locks are good if you're stopping just to get lunch. Chain it to a post, through the wheel and frame, and sit where you can keep an eye on the bike.

I ride around our county on a fat bike, and I use a 'U' lock and cable when I stop for refreshment. The 'U' lock fits snugly around the rim and tire, so it can't be ridden away. A cable attaches to the 'U' lock to secure the bike to a post. It would still be possible for a thief to cut the cable and hoist the bike into a pickup truck, but at least they can't ride it away. And I'd be watching it, anyway. Most thieves are walk-up, ride-away.

I know nothing about panniers/saddle bags on bikes. I had them on a motorcycle. If you buy saddle bags for your bike, you'd need a luggage rack with the side bars to prevent the bag from going into the wheel.
If I knew how to ride a bike properly, I'd do it every time.
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#5
(03-30-2020, 09:56 AM)8jk8 Wrote:  Even though I'm WFH for now, I plan to start commuting by bike for the first time when we eventually return to the office. I'd also like to get extra mileage with some recreational riding on weekends and while occasionally running errands. Hoping to get some recommendations for a new-to-me Bianchi Milano I bought on Craigslist. What are your preferences, and what do you like to keep on you when you commute?

I'm completely new to all of this, but I tried to think of what I will eventually need. I'd greatly appreciate your opinions on the following list:
What have I missed? Might there be some issues with compatibility? What are some better alternatives that aren't super expensive? I don't mind investing more now if it will really be worth it down the line. Did I cheap out on some items too much? Are some of them a waste of money?

I promise I'm not an Amazon, Costco, or REI shill. With so many different items, it was just easier to find most of them in a couple of places, but I'm not restricted/loyal to any particular vendor/site if you have recommendations elsewhere.

Thanks for taking the time to read what has become a pretty long post, and thanks in advance for your suggestions!


A water bottle! Try Bivo Smile
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#6
I am not sure how far you are riding, or what the area is like.

Don't carry anything you are unlikely to use. For example, you have a patch repair kit, and a spare tube. The spare tube is probably all you need. How often are you likely to use a first aid kit? I would just carry a few Band-Aids. But there might be something about your situation I don't know about.

The next bicycle lights I get will probably be LED aftermarket motorcycle lights, or LED driving lights for cars or trucks. If they don't have low beam, point them towards the ground. Most bicycle lights are not really bright. Others are too expensive. I would then work out something for a battery pack, and switch. It is handy if you understand the basics of electricity, or have a friend to help.
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(03-31-2020, 07:37 PM)CharleyFarley Wrote:  
(03-30-2020, 09:56 AM)8jk8 Wrote:  Even though I'm WFH for now, I plan to start commuting by bike for the first time when we eventually return to the office. I'd also like to get extra mileage with some recreational riding on weekends and while occasionally running errands. Hoping to get some recommendations for a new-to-me Bianchi Milano I bought on Craigslist. What are your preferences, and what do you like to keep on you when you commute?

I'm completely new to all of this, but I tried to think of what I will eventually need. I'd greatly appreciate your opinions on the following list:

What have I missed? Might there be some issues with compatibility? What are some better alternatives that aren't super expensive? I don't mind investing more now if it will really be worth it down the line. Did I cheap out on some items too much? Are some of them a waste of money?

Thanks for taking the time to read what has become a pretty long post, and thanks in advance for your suggestions!
It looks like you've got it all figured out. What's left to want?

Why two bells?

A rechargeable two-light set for only $8.99? That sounds almost useless. On a dark night, you're not going to be able to see where you're going, especially if the road is wet. And you'd want drivers to see you. I'd save your money on that and spring for a good light A decent front light should run you around $60. Then a rear light that takes batteries would be around $17. I have one on each of my bikes, and they have steady or flashing modes, and they are very bright LEDS. My front light cost me $80 a few years ago but prices have gone down. It's a brilliant light with four levels but I run on the lowest light level. The battery charge lasts longer that way. Lights are not a good thing to skimp on, and I feel sure you'd soon regret them.

Personally, I would have avoided a left hand drive bike. There is only one company who makes left hand freewheels, so you might want to have a spare one in case something happens, and it leaves you without a bike for a while. Also, if the wheel got damaged, you'd have to get one with a left hand thread, or have a bike shop reuse your hub with a new rim and spokes. But you bought it and you can make it work well.

Before you start commuting with it, I would suggest a full service such as cleaning and re-greasing all bearings. If you're good with mechanical work, you could do that in a half day. If not, a bike shop can do it for you. You don't want to find out the things that might let you down on the way to work or home.

Oh, one more thing if you'll be commuting. Get a fluorescent yellow safety jacket with reflective stripes. Being seen goes a long way to staying safe.


BELLS, Bells, bells. I actually have 3. One for those I can tell are paying "general attention" just a small "ding". Two is for those I see who have earbuds in and are ignoring "nature"... it is more of a louder "whistle." Three is for "CWBs" (clueless wonder bunnies" usually blocking a crosswalk, not watching and turning in front of me, generally lacking bicycle awareness. It is a 140 dB electronic HORN, especially for those blocking crossings. I show no mercy. On the "main drags" in our city, bicycles are encouraged to use the sidewalks.
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Hello 8jk8, so what did you end up getting and how's your biking experience so far been? What did you end yo getting from the above list and what worked? Just curious as many of the things can be repurposed from what you already had at home (camping headlight, backpack) while others are specific.

It would be great to see what you learned from this experience. Take care and safe riding.
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#9
A smart watch. Convenient to tell the time and receive notifications and calls, BP Doctor smart watch. It’s also convenient to get data about your body and movement while riding.
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#10
Are you commuting to work or bicycle touring? You said commuting, if you're commuting you don't need half that crap!

NO! you don't need Bells, no car is going to hear them and on a bike path you can yell louder than any bell can go ding.

You said you were commuting, are you first driving the car someplace with the bike, then ride the bike the rest of the way? Bungee Cords? why? are you carrying a tent on the rack that won't fit in the panniers? For that matter why do you need the panniers? Grocery shopping on the way home? That's fine, but I don't see the need for bungee cords. If you need bungee cords those things stretch, if you hit a bump on the road whatever was secured by the bungee cords will shift! What works better is Voile Strap Keeper, these are rubber straps that do stretch a tiny bit but only so you can cinch stuff tight, once cinched nothing moves! They come in different sizes so make sure you get the correct sizes you need, buy a spare set of keepers, they do have a tendency to disappear. They are a bit awkward to figure out how to use them but You Tube will show you how, and Amazon has videos as well.

A $40 car rack will be more trouble than it's worth! I had one a long time ago and the whole thing bounced when I hit a good dip on a country road, one of the wheels made contact with the pavement, yup, the wheel bent; also, there is no way to lock the bike or bikes to the rack. Go with Yakima do it right, do it once.

NO, there is no need for a First Aid Kit! All I carry is 4 Band-Aids, a couple of alcohol wipes, and superglue, yep, I can close up a deep gash with that glue, it will sting like hell, but that sting will go away, watch You Tube videos on how to use superglue to close wounds.

Topeak Mini Morph Bike Pump with Gauge, is an ok pump but it doesn't do well with high pressure tires, if you are riding on low pressure tires than that's fine. But if you are riding on high pressure tires, the Lezyne Road Drive medium size is the best one for combination of weight and ability. But if all you put in your tires is 45 to 50 psi the Topeak will be fine, but once you start heading past 50 it gets progressively more difficult to pump air...as does any mini pump, but the Topeak will be more difficult than the Lezyne will be.

YES, you need a Helmet, but that particular helmet is not a good one for brain protection, go to Virginia Tech helmet ratings, the three best ones under $120 is the P2R A20 MIPS at $60; Giant Rev Comp MIPS at $100; and the Specialized Mode for $120 which I think are on sale on the Specialized site for about 1/2, this is a true commuter helmet, but if you live in a hot climate it won't breath as well as the first two. Of the three the Giant uses better materials and will last the longest. I have two helmets; I use the Giant in the warm months and the Specialized Mode for cold months and add a head beanie when it gets colder.

YES, you need Lights, but that Ascher USB Rechargeable Bike Light Set ($8.99) will not be worth a dime! Those lights will not show up during the daytime, and at night they will be very dim, the battery is a very low-end Chinese OEM, it will not run for near as long as they advertise, and they'll last about a year before they won't take a charge. Obviously, you're on a budget, but safety is your primary concern, which is why I suggest those 3 helmets above, now we're looking at lights part of your safety package. You can go on Amazon and pick up a Cygolite HotShot Pro 200 lumen taillight for around $31; Amazon also has a Cygolite Dash 600 Pro for $45, the 600 number means it puts out 600 lumens on high. Taillights like the one you were looking at has more than one LED, that type and the corncob type get washed out in sunlight, the single led like the Cygolite is a more focused beam and stays brilliant in sunlight. The best headlight for the money is the NiteRider Lumina Boost 900, or the 1000, or the 1100 models, you can get these on their website on the refurbished section, here is the link: https://www.niterider.com/pages/discover-niterider-refurbished These are less expensive because they're refurbished than the Cygolite but they're far superior to the Cygolite. Those Lumina series of lights are made extremely robust, they have a better battery, and for about $30 NiteRider will replace the battery when it no longer will hold a charge.

A word about batteries in lights, almost ALL headlights and taillights use cheap Chinese OEM batteries, they have 3 tiers, they will last about 1 to 1/2 years at tier 1 and up to 5 years at tier 3. Even though NiteRider can replace the battery in the Lumina it is still using the cheap Chinese OEM pouch tier 3 battery. More expensive lights like the Exposure will use the far better Japanese and Korean batteries that will last 10 years, and they too will replace the battery, but those lights will cost a lot more and your on a budget.

YES you need a Lock, but what kind depends on where you will be parking it: ROCKBROS Heavy Duty U‑Lock. It’s the only sub‑$50 lock that uses a full hardened‑steel U‑shackle, weighs over 2 lb, and includes a secondary cable for wheels. Everything cheaper is dramatically less secure! This lock cost about the same as the crap Krypto you were looking at. Of course you can buy a better lock if you want to pay more money, but you might have to weigh out how much crime is where you live and where you will be commuting to, and how much is your bike worth. You don't want to spend $250 to lock up a $150 bike! So consider the value of your bike and how much you can afford, I'm already pushing you to spend more money on a helmet and lighting, not sure how much more you can afford.

NO! Multi-Tool because of what you said: "I'm not totally sure how/when I'd use this." Don't waste your money if you don't know how to repair a bike yet, instead buy a pair of Lezyne Tubeless Power Lever XL Tire Levers these are the strongest levers you can buy, they won't break in cold weather either. Performance Bicycle has these for $8. Learn how to fix a flat on the road, you will be commuting, you need to know how to do this, especially on the rear, in less than 15 minutes.

YES but NO; that particular patch kit is crap as are the levers. If you get the levers I mentioned then all you need to buy is the REMA TT 02 Tour Patch Kit, Large, this patch kit will cost you $9.50 on Amazon.

NO with a caveat. If you need to save money due to the added expense of the stuff I've been mentioning, you can always carry your phone in a pocket or in the rear saddle bag, nor so I see why you need that bag unless you'll be doing touring trips, you didn't mention that was your purpose you mentioned commuting.

QUESTIONABLE: Why do you need a rear rack if you're not touring? Ibera Bike Rack ($24.99) is ok, but it can't handle more than 25 pounds of stuff, I know it says 55 pounds, but that's weight just being placed on the rack, that doesn't account for when you hit a bump on the road and that 55 pounds goes then comes down boosting that weight to 75 to 80 pounds, and doing so repeatedly acts like a slide hammer, and will weaken the welds and it will break. But if you are going light then it will be ok if you need panniers.

NO, you don't need rear Storage commuting to work, that Ibera 2 in 1 PakRak Commuter Bicycle Trunk Bag with Expandable Panniers ($58.99) will simply force you to carry more weight on that rack I discussed above. I do touring, I don't carry a trunk bag, my tent goes on top of the rack, it won't fit in any trunk bag, plus that bag adds unnecessary weight when touring, I don't need to put my tent that comes in its own bag into a trunk bag...wouldn't fit anyways! And I can't put a tent on top of the trunk bag, so X that trunk bag. Also that trunk bag came with panniers, those particular ones are not that great, there are two other panniers Amazon sells that would be better, the best of their inexpensive ones is the Rhinowalk Bike Bag Waterproof Bike Pannier Bag these cost $50 but what I can't tell from the lack of description is the price for one bag or 2, you would have ask Amazon. The other one is of lessor quality, and it is for 2 bags for sure, it only cost $28, it's called: KEMIMOTO Bike Bag Panniers with Rain Cover, 34L Waterproof Rear Rack Bag.

YES: you need a Spare Tube.

A word about panniers. If you need panniers then you need to buy a small box of WHITE TRASH COMPACTOR plastic bags to use as liners inside the pannier to protect from spillage and smells ruining the panniers. Why trash compactor bags? Because these are the toughest plastic bag you can get and they won't rip in one use like the other bags. Why the color white? Because when you open your pannier the white will reflect more light into the pannier and you can see easier into the bag to find stuff. All you do is roll the plastic bag shut before closing the pannier, this will help waterproof the contents better. You will also need to use ZipLock bags for anything inside the pannier that you don't want to get wet either from outside rain or something spilling inside the bag messing up whatever you had you didn't want to get wet and or ruined. I even use a compactor bag to put my tent in before strapping it down to the rack.
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