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Have you heard about this Ketone Ester drink? I read that Jumbo uses this supplement at Tour de France and calls it the miracle drink. It aids the recovery process, and looks like it sure works for them with those 4 victories.

I was curious about it and went to check out the prices as I also do some endurance cycling with occassional racing (considering triathlon in the future). It was written that it's expensive. Oh well, one time order with 36 bottles (each 25g pure ketone) coooooosts ..... you are correct, $1149!
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(07-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Nikko Wrote:  Have you heard about this Ketone Ester drink? I read that Jumbo uses this supplement at Tour de France and calls it the miracle drink. It aids the recovery process, and looks like it sure works for them with those 4 victories.

I was curious about it and went to check out the prices as I also do some endurance cycling with occassional racing (considering triathlon in the future). It was written that it's expensive. Oh well, one time order with 36 bottles (each 25g pure ketone) coooooosts ..... you are correct, $1149!

And the taste ir horrific! Well I mean they are not made to be tasty ...
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(07-19-2019, 06:46 AM)barracuda Wrote:  
(07-18-2019, 10:33 AM)Nikko Wrote:  Have you heard about this Ketone Ester drink? I read that Jumbo uses this supplement at Tour de France and calls it the miracle drink. It aids the recovery process, and looks like it sure works for them with those 4 victories.

I was curious about it and went to check out the prices as I also do some endurance cycling with occassional racing (considering triathlon in the future). It was written that it's expensive. Oh well, one time order with 36 bottles (each 25g pure ketone) coooooosts ..... you are correct, $1149!

And the taste ir horrific! Well I mean they are not made to be tasty ...

might be that I heard Lance saying on his podcast that they already tried the ketone during his era, but it was simply too discusting to drink.
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#4
For those who have not read or heard ... Ketone Ester was initially developed for US army: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/915715
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(07-31-2019, 02:16 PM)MamboNumber5 Wrote:  For those who have not read or heard ... Ketone Ester was initially developed for US army: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/915715

Well, many good inventions & innovations come from the Army!
Autobahn
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#6
An article about Ketones, from February

https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/understanding-ketones-what-does-the-wonder-drink-actually-do/
"Carbon is faster"
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#7
Recently I am starting to use that drink while doing home workout on my exercise bike, but I don't know about that results,
just I saw my friend use it too, but their was a different drink.
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#8
No research-proven benefit; waste of money unless you're training 20+ hours per week / stage racing. Focus on high-carb consumption in training and racing, a consistent training schedule, getting 8+ hours of sleep, and eating the right nutrients off the bike. That'll get you a lot further.
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#9
Ketones would help power you through anaerobic sprints, but for endurance, that's not something you want to be happening to your body. Catabolism will ravage your health. You also will get a greater benefit in anaerobic sprints by utilizing lots of creatine. I would suggest 10g a day at least. And up to an additional 10g during your rides. Throwing ketones on top of that will always help, but creatine is really the champion of powering your cells through anaerobic respiration states.
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#10
Warning: only take nutritional advice from licensed dietians/nutritionists/doctors. Or heck; listen to me and eat this purple stuff I'm selling since I'm online and obciously I am still alive. Pro athletes who might actually need this stuff have professional support staff who are formally educated in this area.
I do heroin; it is great! Try it out; you'll love it so much you won't want to stop. Not only that, but Pro cyclists have been using it since the 1800s!

Eat freaking real food!
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#11
Definitely can't recommend any type of opioids. Seriously, not even once. Extreme anxiety, neuropathy, and terrible things will happen to you. You may never be the same again.

Creatine however is the most studying and predominant sports supplement in the world.

It's not even a what-if or question of anything at all.

Creatine naturally exists in cells and is expended to produce ATP during anaerobic states where the cells do not have any oxygen to metabolize carbs for energy. Taking creatine will definitely boost anaerobic cycling where ketones come into play foremost. Since it can be expected to get depleted before an enduro-state, the ketones will still help, but creatine will prolong healthy body composition and stave the enduro-state from becoming catabolic.
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#12
(11-18-2024, 01:53 PM)ReapThaWhirlwind Wrote:  Definitely can't recommend any type of opioids. Seriously, not even once. Extreme anxiety, neuropathy, and terrible things will happen to you. You may never be the same again.

Creatine however is the most studying and predominant sports supplement in the world.

It's not even a what-if or question of anything at all.

Creatine naturally exists in cells and is expended to produce ATP during anaerobic states where the cells do not have any oxygen to metabolize carbs for energy. Taking creatine will definitely boost anaerobic cycling where ketones come into play foremost. Since it can be expected to get depleted before an enduro-state, the ketones will still help, but creatine will prolong healthy body composition and stave the enduro-state from becoming catabolic.

Apparently more uneduacted advice. Have you at least passed a medical college level course in organic chemistry? I have, and I would post my certifications and college degree if not for online scammers. But here in the virtual world one can spew whatever tripe one wants to without consequence so why not do it myself.
Technically and more precisely heroin is an opiate as it is not synthetic. Opioid is a generic term for the masses who have no medical background since it includes synthetic drugs also. What do I know. Crap I forgot I just retored after working in a hospital OR for the last 10 years. I of course was obvously being facetious; but hey dose yourselves with whatever BS you want.
I am gone from this site that openly allows non-professionals to repeatedly advise what others should put in their bodies without an iota of consideration that someone whose body chemistry is unlike their own (it does not take much!); and who could suffer major ill-effects from taking such advice. Since you want to give BS advice regarding the potential safety of another without admitting your utterly amateur status than so be it. The administrators of this site have been warned multiple times so screw and this ludicrous lack of responsibility and concern by those who care not for the safety of others, but only about what they think applies to everyone.
Please inject yourselves with THC delta nine (also 8 and 10 for good measure). Lawn grass is another great dietary supplement, lets not forget lye to combat that nasty acidity in your stomach. Eat fecal matter from field voles and star-nosed moles; it can't hurt now can it? Plus, it's online in print right here so it must be good for you. Massage yourself with alligator bile. Inhale organohalogens to expand those bronchi. Just like a recent Federal executive administrator without any medical education recommended on national TV during a medical crisis to take medication that was never meant to be used for the purposes that that idiot moronically announced (while holding a pill) would treat a disease of fatal potential; and who ended up contracting that same disease himself while dosing with his "miracle cure". I wish I could feel sorry for the poor fools blindly followed his advice and got ill or died. Waiting for that idiot to take his own poison pill with some bleach and UV lights. What a freaking mess that fool made while being in some way, shape, and form responsible for the deaths of his own citizens. @ReapThaWhirlwind you are no better! Live with that FACT.

GOODBYE AND WELL WISHES TO THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THEIR CRANIUMS INSERTED PAST BOTH OF THEIR ANAL SPHINCTERS. That's right "Reap" you have 2 anal sphinters; but with your vast knowledge of the human anatomy I am sure you already knew that right; because I am certain that you passed those medical college level anatomy and physiology courses too.

And maybe for once in your life you'll actually get a high end GT bike instead of fettering with all your broken down tripe that keep needing new parts and barely get any REAL mileage put on them. Maybe you can give them to some women who actually know how to really ride a bike. Nope, you won't because you made it clear that a womam can't even ride 15 miles without help from a freaking motor. I wish that Rebecca Twigg, et al. would slap the fecal matter out of your silly skull.

Whoopee! I did a quadruple "century" last month: 400 miles in less than 30 days (really only took 21 days so I'll count it as quintuple century. What did you say real cyclists? You mean centuries are actually done in one day. Crap! I guess I am just a rank amateur commuter with delusions of greatness (like that smug fool about to take.....).

I sincerely apologize if I offended anyone (except...).

Okay, that should get me readily banned for being honest and factual.
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#13
I am certainly not moved by the depraved ravings.

Too much hydrogen peroxide possibly. It is why the hair turns grey. The onsets of zombification. A lot of catalase and glutathione boosting might help, but this is so way off the deep end, it's like a signal from flat earth.
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#14
Obviously this thread should be removed as it provides nothing.

1) Use it it's great
2) Do not use it; waste of money
3) No expert advice
4) No disclaimer giben for amateur advice.
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#15
so is Jesper really gone? man I'm gonna miss his wealth of bike knowledge on old stuff
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