(10-08-2024, 06:22 PM)Flowrider Wrote: (10-07-2024, 08:26 PM)GirishH Wrote: Hello @froze , i agree with you that bike's/Cars are inanimate things that don't come to you when you call then..( or not yet). But like @Flowrider, @meamoantonio and others pointed out so much history, great experiences and fun times are associated that some can't but name their bikes.
Some places my Fatbike ha taken me are indescribable and the memories associated strongly bind us two ( bike and rider)..hence this "cultura" of naming..
Again, totally agree that bicycle is an inanimate object..
(09-15-2024, 11:37 PM)froze Wrote: (08-30-2024, 05:06 AM)GirishH Wrote: Hello @froze, funny names..:-) Just curious if you just go with the name of the manufacturer or jumble the names up so a Giant is a Fuji...:-)
(08-29-2024, 11:11 PM)froze Wrote: Yup, all mine have names, names like Lynskey, Masi, Raleigh, Trek, Schwinn, Fuji, Dawes, Miyata, and Giant. The funny thing about that is that these names technically would be the last name in human terms, and the model would be its first name, ah, but who cares?
No jumbling of the names, just the names the manufactures gave them.
Bikes, cars, and other objects are not conscious living things, they are inanimate objects, and they won't come when you call them; people, dogs and other pets, or farm animals you can name and will come when you call them.
Hi there, I hear you @froze , though I must add it's a human condition to feel affection for something that you can depend on and that has got you through tough times. It is pretty much a harmless outlook for those who choose to do it. But as they say, "each unto their own"
I have no feelings of affection towards an inanimate object, I do have feelings of affection towards people I love, even my dog, but not my bikes, or my cars, and I'm a former car collector, or whatever thing, even though I depend on those things to take me places, but they're tools in which to use to take me places, that's not to say I don't like them, like some cars I liked better than others, but I have no affection for them, inanimate objects don't take me through tough times, people do that, and my dogs I've had over the years, can to a certain limited extent. When I was in the military, my weapons I carried were tools, tools to be take care of so they won't let you down when you need them, but they're just tools; I take care of my cars by maintaining them so I can continue to use them as tools, same with my bikes, same with my physical house.
To me, this is very important separation of what is inanimate and what isn't. In the ancient Old Testament days, they worshiped the golden calf, an inanimate object that was built by a man; humans are prone to treating an inanimate object as something that is similar to being a human, there is a time coming soon when people will be worshiping an AI thing that will have all the human traits and attributes, but a lot smarter, this is the danger that Elon Musk is warning us of. I will never bow down to a thing, I won't even bow down to a human, but I will bow down to God, and AI will try to come across as god...watch who or what you bow down to.
But as they say, "to each their own"!
Things do not get me through tough times, people do, and to some degree pets can, but a car, a bike, or whatever thing cannot do that. Inanimate objects are tools to be used to get some place, or to live inside, or to protect yourself, or study with, things are incapable of loving you back, not even the up and coming AI robots that will look very human, talk and think very human, if not more so, it could even express love, but it's just a pretense, it cannot actually feel love being given to it, but it will fool people into thinking it can.