Have questions or want to discuss cycling? Join Now or Sign In to participate in the BikeRide community.

New: Take Part in the Latest Giveaway coming soon


How to check Front Derailleur fit?
#1
So I have to change my E-type bottom bracket, which means I have to change my bottom pull, top swing FD. The BB is a 68x110mm. It'll be a UN-55.
It's a late '90s Specialized Expedition Elite MTB, 21speed 35mm seat tube. Triple front rings, biggest is 42 tooth. I can check the other ring sizes if I need to.
I hate to put something cheap or crappy looking on it, the Acera on it seems to be better made & nicer looking than current offerings in that range.
The one that surprised me (seemed nicely made & looked good) was this lower line cheapie.

ALIVIO FD-M413
[Image: 345526c.jpg]

So how do I tell if it'll work/fit with a 42T ring? How do I make sure the angle of the seat tube is OK? Do I check this angle from plumb to a line in the seat tube center, or from the chain stay to seat tube c-t-c?
What's Hyperdrive?
Will it work with a 7 or 8 speed cassette and chain?
Do I have to worry about chainline compatibility?
Should I just shut up, buy it, try it, toss it in the parts box if it's a no go?
Do you have a better suggestion?
Sorry, I'm ignorant. I can't check at the LBS, they have cheap junk & crazy scary expensive.
When I've changed them in the past I've used the same model as whatever was OEM after a wreck or mishap.
  Reply
#2
Hi Jeff;

I put one of these on my GT Triple - really nice unit, very easy to set up and adjust. I had to make a collar for it as it was intended for a 34.9mm seat tube (vs 28.6) I bought a foot of 6061 T6 aluminum alloy tubing; 1.375" OD, 1.125" ID - used this solution on both the SR and the GT.

It is a very smooth FD, I purchased a couple more from Crosslake Sales on ebay - at $0.99 it is an incredilble deal, at $10- it is still a good choice.

According to Shimano, the M413 will work with chainrings up to 48T max (would probably do 50T in a pinch); 42T is no problem.

http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/SI/Alivio-Acera/FrontDriveSystem/SI_6KFFB/SI-6KFFB-002-ENG_v1_m56577569830750020.pdf
http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/bikecomponents/FD/EV-FD-M413-2674B_v1_m56577569830728361.pdf
Nigel
  Reply
#3
1) The techdoc specifies a BB 13mm wider than my existing. Is that because the doc refers to Alivio crankset install too?
2) The tech doc shows the M413 as a top pull, and I can't see in the picture where it would work as a bottom pull. Can you look at yours & confirm, I think your green bike has one & it looks like a bottom pull cable.
3) I guess FD angle is center line of the chainstay & seat tube. Your green triple triangle looks about the same angle as my Specialized.
  Reply
#4
I goofed. There are clearance issues as the existing FD is an E-type & when it moves to the inner chainring it (the fd body) almost touches the seat tube. I believe I am incorrect & will need a bottom swing as I have interference with something mounted to my water bottle braze-ons. A bottom mount or (bottom swing?) is going to have clearance issues when it moves to the smallest front ring, I think the inner side of the FD mechanism will hit the seat tube as it tries to move in. I'll have to take pics & post again. Sorry guys.
  Reply
#5
Hi Jeff;

1) tech doc is referring the Alivio crankset.

2) The M413 can be used as either a top or bottom pull - great to have one model that works either way Smile

3)......

next - on my GT, the FD is mounted between the bottle screws - I need a spacer there to use that mount.
Nigel
  Reply


Possibly Related Threads...

Forum Jump:

[-]
10 Latest Posts
Christmas presents for cycling
04-18-2024 10:23 PM
Lectric One
04-17-2024 09:58 PM
Cycling in the Wind
04-17-2024 03:45 PM
Do you have a four foot rule?
04-17-2024 12:49 PM
What New Year's Cycling Resolutions Do Y...
04-17-2024 10:58 AM
E-Bike with my camera
04-16-2024 09:47 PM
Tyres keep popping off wheels...
04-16-2024 04:45 PM
Saronni Colnago Critrium Frame set
04-16-2024 03:26 PM
Rear hub issue
04-16-2024 04:18 AM
Vintage (and mint) Torelli...unknown yea...
04-16-2024 12:43 AM

[-]
Join BikeRide on Strava
Feel free to join if you are on Strava: www.strava.com/clubs/bikeridecom

[-]
Top 5 Posters This Month
no avatar 1. Jesper
27 posts
no avatar 2. enkei
26 posts
no avatar 3. Frankly
20 posts
no avatar 4. Painkiller
14 posts
no avatar 5. meamoantonio
12 posts