The big difference in cyclist

[rydabent]

Being in the snow belt, and setting here at the computer, with the temp outside at 20 degrees, I noticed something. Since I dont ride at all when it is cold, i often watch rides and rallies on the computer. On the rallies and rides, there seems to be a huge difference in cyclist. Some ride these rallies with full panniers, that seems to have enough stuff to go on a cross country tour. Then there are the people that I really dont understand, that seem to have absolutely nothing on their bikes. What do they do if they have a flat, or some minor mechanical problem? Do they depend on those that come moderately equipped to fix a flat or what ever? Personally I carry a trunk pack with enough tubes and tools, that I shouldnt have to walk home, or depend on help from others.

[Painkiller]

If ya gonna ride, ride to survive. I can be a little more forgiving for a newbie to the group but I expect them to be off the sugar nipple as soon as possible!

[Avery Jones]

I’ve noticed that too! Some cyclists go minimal while others are fully prepared. It’s risky not carrying the basics like spare tubes and a multi-tool definitely worth the extra weight for peace of mind.

[GirishH]

With some of these organized rides I am guessing folks are relying on the support vehicle/SAG or kindness of others.

Sadly, I have seen this trend of minimalism/ultra-light weight in the hiking community as well. These folks carry absolutely no extra gear, food, and absolutely no room for an error.

I truly am not sure how these cyclists or hikers think or can function without thinking of the absolute minimals they will need to survive in case of an incident..

[Flowrider]

Being prepared is a no-brainer.

The other day, we were around 40k from the cars in 38C heat, and one rider snapped the chain.

Fortunately, one of our group had all the gear to repair the chain, and we could carry on.

[Jake1]

(01-12-2025, 03:05 PM)rydabent Wrote:  Being in the snow belt, and setting here at the computer, with the temp outside at 20 degrees, I noticed something. Since I dont ride at all when it is cold, i often watch rides and rallies on the computer. On the rallies and rides, there seems to be a huge difference in cyclist. Some ride these rallies with full panniers, that seems to have enough stuff to go on a cross country tour. Then there are the people that I really dont understand, that seem to have absolutely nothing on their bikes. What do they do if they have a flat, or some minor mechanical problem? Do they depend on those that come moderately equipped to fix a flat or what ever? Personally I carry a trunk pack with enough tubes and tools, that I shouldnt have to walk home, or depend on help from others.

Aside from each rider's personal preferences, you would need to know what the event is, how long, terrain, expected weather, event/group support, location, etc.
Many many organized events have support/rest stops, bike checks, or mobile support. Those events might also have varying distances where those doing 100 miles start with those doing 20 miles. Many groups often have one or two riders carrying support gear and rotate the task on the next ride. Fast paced riders tend not to load a bike down with extra gear.

I hope you carry a spare tire or eventually you will be walking home since I have never repaired a blown out, torn/slashed tire with any tube repair kit (although the damaged tube can potentially provide short term repair if know the technique).

Basic rule for my longer distance riding: 1 spare tube per wheel, 1 spare tire per each size wheel, 2 patches minimum per wheel, whatever patch kit floats your boat, and the most basic tools (1 to 2 tire levers, basic wrenches, small versatile knife/tool (e.g. Swiss Army Classic)), "super" glue", velcro. If touring (especially in isolated areas) you would carry 1 tire per wheel, 2 tubes per wheel, expanded toolkit/repair kit, spare spokes (thus a spoke wrench also), chain repair/spare chain, cables, duct tape, lighter, etc. Everything is modified for weather and ride duration. I ride solo in moderatley isolated areas (trails, country roads) so no group help.

One thing to note: if you have a problem and need help you will find that most people will help, and you will usually have a much better story to tell around the table, as often you may be invited for a meal, overnight accommodation, etc. Breakdown and meet the world!