03-19-2011, 03:57 PM
Confessions of a novice bicyclist.
Hi from Kentucky.
My initial experience in purchasing a bike and dealing with related shops has not been very positive. To my surprise, it is no longer acceptable/ condoned to purchase bikes outside of genre specific categories (even then you can get sucked into the budget bikes unknowingly at supposed specialty shops). So, my observations thus far are that bikes costing below $800 and purchased outside a bike shop is practically junk. I know that’s a bold statement (and likely untrue) but let me share my recent experiences with you that have shaped my opinions…
Because of gas prices and the need to exercise I began considering biking as an answer to both problems. After reading about different bikes and the needs of the rider I narrowed my choices to the suspension cruisers. My choices were the Kent/ Next (Chinese made) models found at the K-marts (for a cheap bike I actually liked the fit and handling). After reading many recommendations to invest elsewhere, I found a unique cruiser from “RUSTYSPOKES” in California (Softcruise). The base model was around $300 but after seeing the rugged looking downhill bike, I eagerly paid over $650 for the beefier 8sp version.
The bike was shipped to a pro shop in Cincinnati for assembly. I know that torque, lubrication and trueing and necessary for optimum performance so I felt a bike shop would be best to handle assembly. When the time came for pick-up, I felt ignored by the staff even though I was mentioning a front brake may be in the future if they wanted the job. “We don’t work on low end bikes” was fired back at me which stunned me a bit and squelched any further discussion. I loaded my softcruise and drove away still wondering how a $600+ bike could be “low-end”.
Some days later I made contact with a bike shop closer to my location and again mentioned my interest in a front brake and the possible components I had seen online. “Yeah, I get lots of folks in here that think the net makes them experts. If they don’t believe me the I don’t give a f***”!” Again I’m stunned (and a little raged) at the response I was given. Guessing he probably had a crappy day I thanked him anyway and ended the conversation. At this point I’ve concluded that there exists an attitude from (some, not all) pro’s concerning bikes and their support for customers with cheaper brand bikes. Are they just unwilling to allow me to throw money on a junk product? In the case of my second shop contact, is an informed customer a threat to their knowledge base?
So it’s up to me now. I’ve bought the bike and any faults/ upgrades I’m interested in will be done myself. Am I blinded by the “cool uniqueness” of my purchase so much that further investment (and possibly fabrication) of components are worth it to me? I had no idea that 1 1/8” threadless steering components/ forks are the norm. I was also surprised to see that MTB forks are well over $500 if I wanted to replace the springer currently on the bike. Regardless of the feedback gotten so far, I like my (Chinese made) cruiser. I get lots of questions from other cyclist and even a few requests to try it out. It’s not a speed machine, it’s not a high end brand name but it’s different than other bikes commonly seen. Sure it’s a tank and the hills are a struggle (even in the 1st gear of the Nexus hub) but I need the exercise anyway. Every special interest group has opinions on quality and performance and I’ve experienced that already in the fields of guitars, motorcycles etc. Cycling is no different so hopefully I can learn from others here on the possibilities for improving a “less quality” bike.
I’ve ranted enough and tried to justify by decision to buy the bike so I hope you will welcome me anyway. The standard (old school 1”) bikes are dinosaurs but hopefully others out there have dealt with similar situations and can guide me on how to upgrade (and maybe convert) what I have with modern components.
I’ve already admitted to myself that 3” handlebars will need to replace the current “drag” bars for better riding position. I’m also considering installing a lay-back seat post for more leg room / cranking stroke. The most important needed item is a front brake. The springer forks function in lessoning the bumps but limit what can added as brakes. There are kits for a disc conversion and hub brakes are available.
MTB forks would operate better but a 1” fork is obsolete (or expensive). Can springer forks tolerate braking stresses? There’s slack on the spring when weight is applied. Should I tighten the spring slack or is this normal to allow the spring to cushion during riding?
Thank you for tolerating my observations and any feedback is appreciated.
Hi from Kentucky.
My initial experience in purchasing a bike and dealing with related shops has not been very positive. To my surprise, it is no longer acceptable/ condoned to purchase bikes outside of genre specific categories (even then you can get sucked into the budget bikes unknowingly at supposed specialty shops). So, my observations thus far are that bikes costing below $800 and purchased outside a bike shop is practically junk. I know that’s a bold statement (and likely untrue) but let me share my recent experiences with you that have shaped my opinions…
Because of gas prices and the need to exercise I began considering biking as an answer to both problems. After reading about different bikes and the needs of the rider I narrowed my choices to the suspension cruisers. My choices were the Kent/ Next (Chinese made) models found at the K-marts (for a cheap bike I actually liked the fit and handling). After reading many recommendations to invest elsewhere, I found a unique cruiser from “RUSTYSPOKES” in California (Softcruise). The base model was around $300 but after seeing the rugged looking downhill bike, I eagerly paid over $650 for the beefier 8sp version.
The bike was shipped to a pro shop in Cincinnati for assembly. I know that torque, lubrication and trueing and necessary for optimum performance so I felt a bike shop would be best to handle assembly. When the time came for pick-up, I felt ignored by the staff even though I was mentioning a front brake may be in the future if they wanted the job. “We don’t work on low end bikes” was fired back at me which stunned me a bit and squelched any further discussion. I loaded my softcruise and drove away still wondering how a $600+ bike could be “low-end”.
Some days later I made contact with a bike shop closer to my location and again mentioned my interest in a front brake and the possible components I had seen online. “Yeah, I get lots of folks in here that think the net makes them experts. If they don’t believe me the I don’t give a f***”!” Again I’m stunned (and a little raged) at the response I was given. Guessing he probably had a crappy day I thanked him anyway and ended the conversation. At this point I’ve concluded that there exists an attitude from (some, not all) pro’s concerning bikes and their support for customers with cheaper brand bikes. Are they just unwilling to allow me to throw money on a junk product? In the case of my second shop contact, is an informed customer a threat to their knowledge base?
So it’s up to me now. I’ve bought the bike and any faults/ upgrades I’m interested in will be done myself. Am I blinded by the “cool uniqueness” of my purchase so much that further investment (and possibly fabrication) of components are worth it to me? I had no idea that 1 1/8” threadless steering components/ forks are the norm. I was also surprised to see that MTB forks are well over $500 if I wanted to replace the springer currently on the bike. Regardless of the feedback gotten so far, I like my (Chinese made) cruiser. I get lots of questions from other cyclist and even a few requests to try it out. It’s not a speed machine, it’s not a high end brand name but it’s different than other bikes commonly seen. Sure it’s a tank and the hills are a struggle (even in the 1st gear of the Nexus hub) but I need the exercise anyway. Every special interest group has opinions on quality and performance and I’ve experienced that already in the fields of guitars, motorcycles etc. Cycling is no different so hopefully I can learn from others here on the possibilities for improving a “less quality” bike.
I’ve ranted enough and tried to justify by decision to buy the bike so I hope you will welcome me anyway. The standard (old school 1”) bikes are dinosaurs but hopefully others out there have dealt with similar situations and can guide me on how to upgrade (and maybe convert) what I have with modern components.
I’ve already admitted to myself that 3” handlebars will need to replace the current “drag” bars for better riding position. I’m also considering installing a lay-back seat post for more leg room / cranking stroke. The most important needed item is a front brake. The springer forks function in lessoning the bumps but limit what can added as brakes. There are kits for a disc conversion and hub brakes are available.
MTB forks would operate better but a 1” fork is obsolete (or expensive). Can springer forks tolerate braking stresses? There’s slack on the spring when weight is applied. Should I tighten the spring slack or is this normal to allow the spring to cushion during riding?
Thank you for tolerating my observations and any feedback is appreciated.
2011softcruise
“Striker, listen, and you listen close: flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.”
Airplane (1980) – Rex Kramer (Robert Stack)
“Striker, listen, and you listen close: flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.”
Airplane (1980) – Rex Kramer (Robert Stack)